No I dont believe EVERYTHING the govt tells me. That is a stupid assumption on your part, then again it is probably far easier for your to drown out the cognitive dissonance by painting me with some extreme brush, eh?

That right! Im gullible and you can see what I am too blind to see….suuuure.

I question a lot of things. Unfortunately, you just need to know that I dont buy into your bullshit conspiracies.

See, you are paranoid. I question things, but I am not paranoid.

There is a thick, broad line with reason and logic on one side and paranoia and distrust on the other.

You see, I am a part of the majority of Americans who reject your extreme (and extremely paranoid and delusional) views. Thats the difference. It is so chic to be some stupid protestor who hates Bush and hates Starbucks and all that shit. But that is so OLD by now. It’s like an army of lookalike soundalike people who sit around and stew about every damned thing, and its retarded, and most Americans dont think like that. They might not like Bush, but they arent as deranged as the lefty fringe you so proudly cling to is.

You are silly because your post title and your defense of the dumb video clash completely. You recognize the faults of the video yet your post title makes you out to be someone claiming this video as definitive proof. Thats why you are silly.

AND you are silly b/c you have no proof whatsoever that 9/11 was an inside job. YOU HAVE NONE. you have lots of shreds of, hmm, we’ll call them “evidence” even though they arent up to such a standard to be called evidence…and you assemble these shreds and you discount anything and everything that comes from anyone you might think is like me or anything from the government.

AND THEN SUDDENLY it all makes sense to you!

You know what? It would all make sense to me, too, if I blocked out and ignored all competing evidence.

And I am accusing you of being as dumb as a 9th grader. I WILL SAY THAT FLAT OUT THAT IF YOU BELIEVE THE THINGS YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE DUMB AS A 9TH GRADER.

And that is not an insult, it is an observation. It is true. There is no other way to describe you if you will sit there and question Popular Mechanics and numerous experts and you will question their judgement.

Either you are the most arrogant dude or you are dumb as hell.

There is no other explanation. Sorry.

You make me believe in conspiracies even more because you leave the door so wide open for them with your lack of ability to question. They can do as they please, the grander the better cause all they have to do is throw the phrase “conspiracy theory” out there and they get people like you automatically start spouting off all this pent up stuff about how conspiracy theories are stupid and only 9th graders would believe in such thing, swing into full-blown debunking mode for them and they don’t even have to defend themselves.

You don’t provide compelling evidence yet you deride those that don’t see it your way. No, see, here’s the video of the plane flying into the Pentagon. Or here’s a picture that shows actual plane wreckage in Pennsylvania. Thank God they got the other plane on video or we’d, or I’d, be questioning that too. But to attempt to just call people silly for believing in such things is childish and naive.

are you sure you watched the movie? they didn’t say that the goverment shot down flight 93, they say it never took off. There was no plane in the ground.

And thanks for the ALL CAPS, is that supposed to be you screaming? Are you 12?

ONE DAY

you can look back on yourself and laugh. Im laughing now, but it wont be funny anymore if you’re still this gullible when you grow up.

As per my mind being made up already – as to this video it was, I admit that easily. I have no reservations in admitting that I was already convinced that this video was crap before I saw it.

ABSOLUTELY ZERO THEORIES on 9/11 have managed to make even 1/10th the amount of sense that the “truth” (I added the scare quotes for your sake, derek) makes. The entire OBL story, the video of him talking about the attacks, his repeated threats to attack America on a grand scale, the simplicity and effectiveness of the attack (it wasnt difficult, it just required resolve, some cash, and extensive planning), and the fact THAT I SAW THE SECOND PLANE HIT live on national TV and I guarantee you that there is

NO WAY

any president, any military, or any group of government/quasi-government people would ever have the thought cross their mind that they could:

a) get away with it
b) conceive and carry out the plan without someone having misgivings and telling all
c) think it was a good idea
d) ensure no ameteur video would surface and refute the official story
e) let US servicemen (or whoever) die on such a mission and not explain their absense
f) shoot down flight 93 if it was in fact a US government operation
g) etc etc etc

As for the melting point of steel etc READ THE POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE and you’ll see it plainly debunks much of the willful ignorance on display in this video, such as the “NO WINDOWS ON THE PLANE” witness who was actually…

“FACT: Birnbach, who was a freelance videographer with FOX News at the time, tells PM that he was more than 2 miles southeast of the WTC, in Brooklyn, when he briefly saw a plane fly over. He says that, in fact, he did not see the plane strike the South Tower; he says he only heard the explosion.”

And as to the MELTING STEEL:

“Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn’t need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength–and that required exposure to much less heat. “I have never seen melted steel in a building fire,” says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. “But I’ve seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks.”"

As a matter of FACT I saw the steel and I saw the bend in it with my own eyes. It hardly melted, nobody claimed that. It simply got so hot that it lost the strength to remain completely rigid and once the center of gravity was lost and the building sagged just a bit, it was all inertia and the whole thing collapsed.

I am amazed that you would propagate such inane crap on your site when much of it has already been

CONCLUSIVELY

shown to be incorrect. Most of the lies within that film (they are clearly LIES because when the truth is known there is no legitimate excuse to peddle falsehoods) are inexcuseable because they reflect either willful complete IGNORANCE or an intentional attempt at chicanery and misleading. In additon, such lies are pushed by those with AGENDAS themelves, so with all the mumbling and finger-pointing about PNAC and whatever it requires a huge leap of faith to take the message with any seriousness when the messengers themselves are motivated by ideology.

So, to sum it up: THE VIDEO SUCKS.

MOST OF IT IS ALL WRONG. SOME OF IT IS MOSTLY WRONG.

A SMALL FRACTION OF IT IS OPEN TO DEBATE, but any debate would be clouded and distorted and would VERY QUICKLY devolve into an argument between “conservative warmongers” and “stupid lefties”.

And saying that the SF mayor was warned….laughable!

Yea, I’m sure he just made that up for effect or something.

serious examination of the facts will lead an intelligent person to dismiss this documentary as garbage…

I’d love to hear yours. Start with the melting point of steel, then titanium.

its perfect for the average moonbat who is in say…hmmm…9th grade, failing in social studies and tends to delieve conspiracy theories…

Everyone agrees it was a conspiracy, so we’re all engaging in conspiracy theories. Who the conspirators were is being debated. Obviously the FBI’s story is at least half incorrect, as the conspirators that supposedly vaporized themselves into the side of a building are actually alive and well.

and talk of Kennedy and cuba

Right, cause the Northwoods memo never really happened. Or, at least your not willing to assimilate it into your version of reality. It is proof that the military has considered staging false flag operations against American assets, no one disputes that either.

The idea that someone would purposely bring down the towers was completely unbelievable to me. So we are definitely well within the unbelievable already. I agree with many of your critisism of the documentary. There are some obvious leaps. I also don’t need good video production in order to make me question what I’m being told, and I don’t need to fabricate “truth” or “fact” in the absence of it. We just don’t know at the moment, the evidence is conflicting.

Though, I do feel like you already had your mind made up before watching the documentary and were looking for validation of that prior belief. It’s as if you wouldn’t believe any “conspiracy theory.” How easily we are manipulated.

And saying that the SF mayor was warned….laughable!

We all know how much GW loves San Fransciso! And then most of the “proof” is just NOT proof, it’s cropped up quotes and silly suggestions, such as the PUT order on the airline stock.

To a total idiot, this documentary might make total sense to them and it might serve as some sort of proof, but none of it proves anything except that the filmmaker is willing to pass off unknowns as knowns…

Any serious examination of the facts will lead an intelligent person to dismiss this documentary as garbage…

its dumb music and emotion-hooking splicing and quotes from morons and silly PNAC contortions and talk of Kennedy and cuba and etc etc etc

its perfect for the average moonbat who is in say…hmmm…9th grade, failing in social studies and tends to delieve conspiracy theories…

But then again…