Comments on: Ruby is fun http://blog.derekgulbranson.com/2005/04/06/ruby-is-fun/ Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:25:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: derek http://blog.derekgulbranson.com/2005/04/06/ruby-is-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-27 derek Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:38:16 +0000 http://derekgulbranson.com/?p=56#comment-27 My personal goal with this is to learn, not necessarily to get an application built. I guess I feel like with Ruby, well, I just find the stuff I'm learning more satisfying than with PHP. With PHP there's so much code around that's just procedural and, while it does the job, and learning it was satisfying, you don't really learn as much about how to be a good programmer. I never even heard of things like unit testing and Model/View/Control separation when dealing with PHP. And I never ran across anything that tried such a high level approach to a framework as Rails. I never figured out how to use the command line to interactively test PHP. Does PHP have even have a breakpoint, IRB, object.inspect or object.debug, etc? These things have really helped me learn a lot about the code I'm writing. I am a little jealous of my VB programmer friend's Visual Studio IDE though. Maybe Ruby has something similar that I haven't found yet. My personal goal with this is to learn, not necessarily to get an application built. I guess I feel like with Ruby, well, I just find the stuff I’m learning more satisfying than with PHP. With PHP there’s so much code around that’s just procedural and, while it does the job, and learning it was satisfying, you don’t really learn as much about how to be a good programmer. I never even heard of things like unit testing and Model/View/Control separation when dealing with PHP. And I never ran across anything that tried such a high level approach to a framework as Rails. I never figured out how to use the command line to interactively test PHP. Does PHP have even have a breakpoint, IRB, object.inspect or object.debug, etc? These things have really helped me learn a lot about the code I’m writing.

I am a little jealous of my VB programmer friend’s Visual Studio IDE though. Maybe Ruby has something similar that I haven’t found yet.

]]> By: Gavri Fernandez http://blog.derekgulbranson.com/2005/04/06/ruby-is-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Gavri Fernandez Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:19:51 +0000 http://derekgulbranson.com/?p=56#comment-26 inject? What's wrong with Array#uniq or just using Set ? Ruby has them too. You don't need to use PHP for Array#uniq! inject?

What’s wrong with Array#uniq or just using Set ?

Ruby has them too. You don’t need to use PHP for Array#uniq!

]]> By: derek http://blog.derekgulbranson.com/2005/04/06/ruby-is-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-25 derek Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:00:14 +0000 http://derekgulbranson.com/?p=56#comment-25 That's a good a point. <i>array_unique()</i> seems more procedural, but that touches on some of the reasons why I liked PHP. It's very accessible and practical. I have this problem, ok here's a function that solves it. With Rails I get to capitalize on the experience of a lot of other pretty sharp people. I think learning Ruby and Rails will help me write better code in other languages as well; PHP, Javascript. It is all a little nebulous at times though. I think once they "work on the documentation":http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/DocumentationDiscussion that could help improve things. I think I also just like having better/more/different iterators. That’s a good a point. array_unique() seems more procedural, but that touches on some of the reasons why I liked PHP. It’s very accessible and practical. I have this problem, ok here’s a function that solves it. With Rails I get to capitalize on the experience of a lot of other pretty sharp people. I think learning Ruby and Rails will help me write better code in other languages as well; PHP, Javascript. It is all a little nebulous at times though. I think once they “work on the documentation”:http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/DocumentationDiscussion that could help improve things.

I think I also just like having better/more/different iterators.

]]> By: John http://blog.derekgulbranson.com/2005/04/06/ruby-is-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-24 John Sun, 10 Apr 2005 08:17:51 +0000 http://derekgulbranson.com/?p=56#comment-24 Actually, wouldn't that have just been handled by a call to <em>array_unique()</em> in PHP? I agree with you that Ruby (on Rails, particularly) is a lot nicer to develop on than PHP, but not always terribly intuitive (for me at least). Actually, wouldn’t that have just been handled by a call to array_unique() in PHP? I agree with you that Ruby (on Rails, particularly) is a lot nicer to develop on than PHP, but not always terribly intuitive (for me at least).

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